{"id":91,"date":"2015-03-31T23:37:17","date_gmt":"2015-04-01T03:37:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/?p=91"},"modified":"2025-12-17T11:30:56","modified_gmt":"2025-12-17T16:30:56","slug":"evangelical-leaders-involved-in-ecumenism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/?p=91","title":{"rendered":"Evangelical Leaders & Ecumenism – Pt.1"},"content":{"rendered":"
This entry is part 1 of 3 in the series Evangelical Leaders & Ecumenism<\/a><\/div>
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Ecumenical meeting with Pope Francis, June 2014<\/p><\/div>\n

Sadly we\u00a0 found that some Churches, organizations & colleges mainly belonging to the movements of\u00a0 Neo Calvinism,<\/a>\u00a0 The New Apostolic Reformation<\/a> (NAR)<\/strong> &\u00a0The Word of Faith<\/a> (WoF) movement, (as well as some other\u00a0 organizations), are in a great number getting involved with the ecumenical movement<\/span><\/span><\/a>. <\/b>They\u00a0 have links with one another, and are mostly Dominionists<\/a><\/strong> or ‘Kingdom Now<\/a>‘ theology, which believe that it is Christians’ job to take over the world and occupy or exercise dominion, imposing a biblical rule. They said Christ would not return, until the church had claimed dominion over all of the world’s governments and institutions (7 mountains or spheres).<\/p>\n

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“But Jesus called them unto him<\/i>, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion<\/span><\/strong> over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.\u00a0<\/span>But it shall not<\/span> be so among you<\/strong>: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;\u00a0<\/span>and whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your<\/strong> servant:<\/span>\u00a0<\/span>even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many” Matthew 20:25-28<\/a><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The most painful part is all the people that they are causing to fall away from the truth of the gospel of Christ. We ask you to please pray<\/b> for all the sheep that are being harmed or affected by these movements, there are a lot of sincere and God\u00a0 loving Christians following their wrong teachings. (Our church got involved with some belonging to the NAR movement, we were baby Christians at the time and we embraced them not knowing, latter the Lord opened our eyes). If we get the opportunity to talk to them let us make sure we do it out of love and not because we are trying to win any arguments. Remember we work to glorify God,<\/strong> not ourselves.\u00a0 As the Lord leads please also pray for the leaders and promoters of these ecumenical movement, that the Lord may open their eyes and grant them repentance. Teachers will be judged more severely (James 3:1<\/a>).<\/p>\n

The intention with the following list is just to show how some known leaders are getting involved with ecumenism & Catholic Mysticism<\/span><\/strong> (Lectio divina, Contemplative prayer, etc.), so Christians can exercise biblical discernment, we try to prove it with evidence in the links.\u00a0 If one of your favorite preachers is in the ecumenic list please don’t get offended and don’t dismiss the warning, but just pray to God for revelation and pray for that preacher also. We are not trying to discuss here about their doctrines, even there may be a link or more doing that. Some of these teachers\/leaders are:<\/p>\n

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-John <\/b>Arnott, <\/b> & Carol- (NAR) Pastors of ‘Catch the Fire’ former Toronto<\/a><\/b> Airport Fellowship, (a Vineyard<\/a> group) of the Toronto Revival<\/a>–\u00a0 J. Arnott was a speaker on Fire & Fusion Conf<\/a>. 2014 evangelicals with Catholics<\/b>. Also see picture above of ecumenical meeting with pope Francis<\/b>. The Arnotts were part of the group of apostles that commissioned Todd Bentley<\/a>.\u00a0 See Bentley in their church of Toronto<\/a>, also Bill Johnson at min 4:31. Here the Arnotts with Benny Hinn.<\/p>\n

–<\/strong>Heidi Baker<\/b><\/a> in Bethel Church of Bill Johnson.\u00a0(NAR), (Repeating over and over a word is called Mantra in New Age, a technique used to enter into a \u201ctrance\u201d or altered state of consciousness, also used in self-hypnosis). She is a fan of Mother Theresa<\/a>, her organization ‘Iris Ministries’ (Bethel Pastor Kris Vallotton is the Director<\/a>, & secretary Stacey Campbell<\/a>) is the major component of Partners in Harvest,<\/a> <\/strong>under the leadership of\u00a0 ecumenical apostles John and Carol Arnott\u201d. She also organized the anointing ceremony for Todd Bentley at Lakeland, Florida and had worked with Bentley in Africa. Christianity Today<\/a> explains that \u201cOne night, she had a vision of Jesus in which she literally<\/span> ate his flesh and drank his blood<\/b><\/i>.\u201d The article further reports \u201cScholar McClymond describes Heidi as a \u2018practical mystic<\/strong>, like Teresa of Avila<\/strong><\/i>.\u2019\u201d She and her husband Rolland form part of the Revival Alliance<\/strong>,<\/a> together with the Arnotts, Bill & Beni Johnson, Randy Clark, etc. all belonging to the NAR<\/a>.<\/p>\n

–Be Still DVD.<\/span><\/a><\/b>\u00a0 <\/b>An infomercial of Contemplative Prayer. Presenters include Beth Moore, Max Lucado<\/a>, Richard Foster<\/a>, Dallas Willard and many others.<\/p>\n

–Rob Bell<\/a><\/b>, (Neo Calv. &\u00a0Emergent<\/a>)<\/p>\n

–<\/b><\/a>Todd <\/b><\/a>Bentley<\/a>, <\/b> (NAR) Lakeland Revival<\/a>. He teaches Contemplative Prayer<\/a>.\u00a0 When some discerning pastors began to question his doctrine a group of NAR’s apostles<\/a> supported & commissioned him on June 2008, 2 weeks later his sin of adultery & drunkenness was exposed by the secular media (ABC\u2019s Nightline). He divorced his wife Shonnah and the revival was over on August 2008. A year later and already married with Jessa, he was restored to work at Rick Joyner’s church and recommended by Rick Joyner<\/a>, Bill Johnson<\/a> <\/strong>& \u00a0Jack Deere<\/a> (at the time Deere was a bible teacher at Mike Bickle’s Church) all 3 were in charge of the restoration process.\u00a0 His new wife<\/a> works now with him.\u00a0 See Bentley preaching in Rick Joyner’s Church<\/a> and being rebuked publicly by some Christian leaders. More here about these revivals<\/a>.<\/p>\n

–Mike Bickle<\/a><\/b> (NAR) Bickle<\/a> founder of IHOP. His “calling” began with a prophet named Augustine Alcala<\/a>. Then 2 prophets, Paul Cain<\/a> who worked with Oral Roberts & W. Branham<\/a> (& who later confessed homosexuality & alcoholism<\/a>) & Bob Jones (also involved in sexual misconduct<\/a>) laid down the blue prints of his ministries. Bickle has Catholic<\/strong> speakers at his conferences<\/a>. He states<\/a> “Everybody is called to live in the contemplative<\/b> lifestyle<\/i><\/span>. <\/i>Everyone! Everyone! Everyone!<\/i><\/span><\/span>” & also teaches contemplative<\/a> prayer.\u00a0 He stated: “I want this book to be the manual<\/strong> for IHOPKC<\/i>.” referring to a Catholic Mystics<\/strong> book “Fire with In<\/a><\/strong>“.\u00a0 Also check here<\/a>.\u00a0 Truman’s Prayer Center,\u00a0<\/a> Mike Bickle is an apostle<\/strong><\/a> in the Apostolic Reformation Movement who thinks they are greater than the apostles in Biblical times. Bickle is the executive director<\/strong> of the multiple ministries of IHOP and is the senior pastor of Forerunner<\/a> <\/strong>Christian Fellowship. “This is not all about “prayer.” The Charisma article<\/a> explains how prayer is being turned into activism<\/strong>, and this is the activism that is now becoming overly political<\/strong><\/em>“<\/strong>. According to Rick Joyner Bickle is also a Knight of Malta. He is part of the agenda of The Order of the Mustard Seed.<\/a>\u00a0 More here,<\/a> also check IHOP in pt.2. New:\u00a0 Bickle with pope Francis!<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

–William<\/a>\u00a0 ‘Jerry’ Boykin<\/a><\/b>, (NAR) LTG (Ret.), Speaker, promoter of ecumenism. He holds the title of Grand Chancellor of the ecumenical<\/a> order of knight of Malta. He’s partner in ministry with Rick Joyner <\/a>& , Freemason Nicholas Papanicolaou,<\/a> The Prince Grand Master of Knights of Malta.\u00a0 They had the blessings of 2 popes<\/a> in their Knight of Malta Web site, that later were removed,\u00a0 this is a screen-shot. Boykin’s website admits to being part of Billy Graham<\/a>‘s ecumenic\u00a0 Lausanne Movement<\/a>.‘<\/i>Boykin helped organize the use of abusive treatment of prisoners in Iraq:<\/b>\u00a0 The Tsunami Headed for the White House<\/a>. He speaks now at several Calvary Chapels<\/a>.\u00a0\u00a0 Video.<\/p>\n

-Francis Chan<\/b>, (Neo Calv.), He seems a very nice person, but nice people can also get deceived, please pray for him. He endorsed New Apostolic teacher Mike Bickle & speaks at his church. He spoke at Rick Warrens’ Saddleback Church and was overflowing with words of praise and admiration for him. He also spoke<\/a> at Dublin International Eucharist Conference<\/a> \u2013 Dublin, Ireland on July 2012 a Catholic conference. Chan apologized to his church for inviting ex Catholic Mike Gendron, a Reformer like him, who believes Catholics need salvation, Chan cut him off and told the audience it was unloving to insinuate that Catholics are not Christians. Chan practicing Catholic mysticism Lectio Divina<\/a> with Reformers John Piper, Louie Giglio, Beth Moore & Reformed Rapper Lacrae\u00a0 at ‘Passion 2012’ Conference (See about Lectio Divina <\/a>). In his book ‘Crazy Love ‘ he quotes Henri Nouwen<\/a> who was a Roman Catholic priest, that was into mysticism. He also praises Shane Clairborne<\/a> author of \u201cIrresistible Revolution\u201d, who worked\u00a0 about 3 months with Mother Teresa in Calcutta, & founded a group of new monks called the Simple Way, a form of new monasticism.<\/p>\n

–<\/strong>Mahesh Chavda<\/b><\/a>, He is ecumenical and a Knight of Malta<\/a>, knighted with Rick Joyner and Bob Connor (according to Joyner’s own words, I heard the tape but don’t want to promote it here).\u00a0 He has been working to unite Catholics with protestants. He’s a pastor and mentor of the Anglican and ecumenic Knight Templar ( http:\/\/templartimes.smotj.org\/)<\/strong> Cannon Andrew White<\/a>, in the video you’ll see Todd Bentley talking to Chavda’s wife. On some of his meetings fall gold glitter<\/a> and feathers, same like Bill Johnson and others like them. People have tested the gold dust falling in different places an none of them are gold, like people from Bethel had their particles tested and found they are NOT gold but glitter.\u00a0 You can see this video about Signs and Wonders<\/a>.<\/p>\n

–Randy <\/a><\/b>Clark <\/a><\/b>, (NAR) Was a pastor of a Vineyard Church, founded ‘Global Awakening<\/a>‘. <\/span>He started the Toronto blessing<\/a>, but he received the anointing from Rodney Howard Browne.<\/i> R. Clark<\/a> was one of the ‘apostles’ that commissioned Todd Bentley.<\/a>\u00a0 He says:”I believe that the ecumenical movement<\/b> in the body of Christ is very important to God”,<\/i> Charisma Magazine.\u00a0 His page mentions: Randy’s ministry crosses denominational lines. From the Westminster Chapel in London, to the St. Thomas the Apostle Roman Catholic Church<\/strong> in Australia. <\/em>He also promotes Catholic ministries, and his Healing school (teaching material<\/a> and students) is also ecumenical<\/a>.<\/p>\n

–<\/b>Kenneth <\/a><\/b>Copeland,<\/a><\/b><\/b> <\/b>& Gloria, (Word of Faith), with pope Francis on picture above. He was Freemason Oral Roberts<\/a>‘ disciple & his personal Pilot<\/a>. Mr Copeland stated: \u201cYou\u2019re all God. You don\u2019t have a God living in you; you are one<\/span>! <\/b>\u2026 When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, \u2018I AM,\u2019 I say, \u2018Yah, I AM<\/strong> too!<\/i>‘\u201d \u2013\u00a0 \u2018The Force of Love,\u2019 Kenneth Copeland,<\/a> tape BBC-56. Also check ‘Are the Copelands Freemasons?”<\/a><\/p>\n

-David<\/b><\/a> Crowder<\/b><\/a>, Musician- Contemplative advocate & Catholic Mysticism. \u00a0Crowder is author of Praise Habit <\/i> <\/i>(referring to the habits worn by Catholic nuns): Finding God in Sunsets and Sushi<\/i>, where he encourages the practice of lectio divina<\/a> and references and quotes contemplative\/emerging figure Walter Brueggemann a number times.<\/p>\n

-John Crowder<\/b> & Ben Dunn (NAR), Sons of Thunder<\/b>\u00a0 <\/a>they teach mysticism<\/a>, and their program ‘Jesus trip<\/a>‘ opens with Catholic Gregorian chant. Pastor Crowder<\/a>,\u00a0 Mystic communion.<\/a>\u00a0 Please pray before watching, is dark material\u00a0 video<\/a> . He also teaches about<\/a> practicing the presence of God in divine ecstasy<\/strong>, historical examples of levitation, stigmata<\/strong>, nature miracles, invisibility and more.\u00a0 He’s a regular speaker at Bill Johnson’s church. See video ‘Mystic John Crowder exposed<\/a>‘.<\/p>\n

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This entry is part 1 of 3 in the series Evangelical Leaders & Ecumenism<\/a><\/div>

Sadly we\u00a0 found that some Churches, organizations & colleges mainly belonging to the movements of\u00a0 Neo Calvinism,\u00a0 The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) &\u00a0The Word of Faith (WoF) movement, (as well as some other\u00a0 organizations), are in a great number getting involved with the ecumenical movement. They\u00a0 have links with one another, and are mostly Dominionists […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[20,68],"series":[11],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/91"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=91"}],"version-history":[{"count":174,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/91\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14345,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/91\/revisions\/14345"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=91"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=91"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=91"},{"taxonomy":"series","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/cristolaverdad.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fseries&post=91"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}